Comments on: Ties http://www.seanpaune.com/2008/04/09/ties/ Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:28:11 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sean P Aune http://www.seanpaune.com/2008/04/09/ties/comment-page-1/#comment-26078 Sean P Aune Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:00:52 +0000 http://www.seanpaune.com/?p=1559#comment-26078 Jack - I hope you realize the next time we get together for dinner... yep... I'm wearin' a gourd. Jack – I hope you realize the next time we get together for dinner… yep… I’m wearin’ a gourd.

]]> By: Nikki http://www.seanpaune.com/2008/04/09/ties/comment-page-1/#comment-26055 Nikki Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:53:27 +0000 http://www.seanpaune.com/?p=1559#comment-26055 I like ties. I just bought my first three. They are lovely and I wish I had more occasion to wear them. But, probably that's because I'm a girl... Are they really that uncomfortable for you? Because I like wearing them. They're like jewelry. And so pretty... Tell you what, I'll trade you. Men's business and formal wear is so much more attractive than women's. I'd much rather wear it than the stuff that's more socially acceptable for my gender. I like ties. I just bought my first three. They are lovely and I wish I had more occasion to wear them. But, probably that’s because I’m a girl… Are they really that uncomfortable for you? Because I like wearing them. They’re like jewelry. And so pretty… Tell you what, I’ll trade you. Men’s business and formal wear is so much more attractive than women’s. I’d much rather wear it than the stuff that’s more socially acceptable for my gender.

]]> By: Contrary Jack http://www.seanpaune.com/2008/04/09/ties/comment-page-1/#comment-25837 Contrary Jack Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:27:59 +0000 http://www.seanpaune.com/?p=1559#comment-25837 Costuming customs are weird. I think there is something to be said for dressing up when up-dressing is appropriate--it shows you acknowledge a shared (hopefully) sense of the importance of an occasion, etc. But I think a semiotic reading of American male formalwear leads one to conclude that formality = discomfort in most situations. Only a sublimated S&M/ Puritan instinct can explain the requirement that men wear suits, even if it's 90 degrees out. So, yeah, ties are weird, but costuming is weird. Remember that formalwear for men in the New Guinea highlands includes a penis sheath made from a gourd: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://waynesword.palomar.edu/images/pgourd1b.jpg&imgrefurl=http://waynesword.palomar.edu/psgourd1.htm&h=372&w=555&sz=81&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=jcykaOtcbYuucM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnew%2Bguinea%2Bpenis%2Bsheath%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN So maybe it could be worse. Jack Costuming customs are weird. I think there is something to be said for dressing up when up-dressing is appropriate–it shows you acknowledge a shared (hopefully) sense of the importance of an occasion, etc. But I think a semiotic reading of American male formalwear leads one to conclude that formality = discomfort in most situations. Only a sublimated S&M/ Puritan instinct can explain the requirement that men wear suits, even if it’s 90 degrees out.

So, yeah, ties are weird, but costuming is weird. Remember that formalwear for men in the New Guinea highlands includes a penis sheath made from a gourd:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://waynesword.palomar.edu/images/pgourd1b.jpg&imgrefurl=http://waynesword.palomar.edu/psgourd1.htm&h=372&w=555&sz=81&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=jcykaOtcbYuucM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnew%2Bguinea%2Bpenis%2Bsheath%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

So maybe it could be worse.

Jack

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